Comments on: Actions speak louder than words http://flowdelic.org/archives/2004/05/actions-speak-louder-than-words/ Mason Hale's weblog Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:43:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: BartB http://flowdelic.org/archives/2004/05/actions-speak-louder-than-words/comment-page-1/#comment-22 BartB Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=9#comment-22 ".... Moral posturing may serve political interests, but no honest person can be particularly surprised that wartime prisons manned by relatively untrained and inexperienced reservists are not superior to our own domestic penal institutions. Those feigning horrified outrage ought to look to their own backyards before portraying abuses by a relative few in Iraq as particularly surprising or unprecedented." <a href="http://www.techcentralstation.com/051004H.html">http://www.techcentralstation.com/051004H.html</a> “…. Moral posturing may serve political interests, but no honest person can be particularly surprised that wartime prisons manned by relatively untrained and inexperienced reservists are not superior to our own domestic penal institutions. Those feigning horrified outrage ought to look to their own backyards before portraying abuses by a relative few in Iraq as particularly surprising or unprecedented.”

http://www.techcentralstation.com/051004H.html

]]> By: Mason http://flowdelic.org/archives/2004/05/actions-speak-louder-than-words/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Mason Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=9#comment-23 Thanks for the comment. If you keep reading this blog, you'll see I have no particular axe to grind. I don't consider myself liberal or Democrat (or Republican for that matter). Just genuinely outraged. I could understand if this happened once or twice in a single prison. But this is not the case of some renegade GI's. From the same article: "... the administration faced more bad news Monday when a Red Cross report said that up to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested "by mistake" and that the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers was widespread and routine." But even if this report is overblown, and this was an isolated incident -- how do we prevent it from happening again? We hold those in charge accountable; the one's knew should have known what was going on and should have stopped it. To do otherwise lets this sort of thing continue to happen. If you are an officer in command of a prison, and one of your key objectives it extract information from your prisoners -- what is your take away from this? That it was the soldiers fault? Thanks for the comment.

If you keep reading this blog, you’ll see I have no particular axe to grind. I don’t consider myself liberal or Democrat (or Republican for that matter). Just genuinely outraged.

I could understand if this happened once or twice in a single prison. But this is not the case of some renegade GI’s.

From the same article:

“… the administration faced more bad news Monday when a Red Cross report said that up to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested “by mistake” and that the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers was widespread and routine.”

But even if this report is overblown, and this was an isolated incident — how do we prevent it from happening again? We hold those in charge accountable; the one’s knew should have known what was going on and should have stopped it. To do otherwise lets this sort of thing continue to happen.

If you are an officer in command of a prison, and one of your key objectives it extract information from your prisoners — what is your take away from this? That it was the soldiers fault?

]]>